Every once in a while, I get to see the financial world through other people's eyes -- that is, the eyes of people who think of shopping as entertainment, who confuse spending with wealth, and who think of debt as not only normal but also necessary. I sort of like being in my own frugal bubble most of the time, but I also don't mind emerging every once in a while to rub elbows with non-frugalists (if that's a word). I know that those people are out there. I know that they mostly get along fine in their non-frugal lives. But I didn't think that those people would masquerade as financial advisors for young adults.
And yet, I was wrong. Last fall, N-son's squash team coach decided to do the very admirable thing (I thought) of bringing in an "expert" from a local Credit Union to give a presentation to the players on the team and their families. We got to have pizza, we "learned" about finances, and we had a Q&A at the end. I was totally jazzed for this event, figuring it would be great to have my kids hear about the importance of financial prudence from someone other than me, for a change. But sheesh! If you're going to teach kids to be responsible with money, maybe you ought to have the teacher be someone who is actually responsible with money, y'know?
The "teacher" in this scenario was a relatively young person who worked at a nearby Credit Union. She'd been provided with a script and a power point presentation, but it was clear that she didn't entirely understand the script she'd been given, especially when it came to debt. For example, here are some of the notes I jotted down, once I realized (to my horror) what she was telling these middle/high school kids and their parents.
And yet, I was wrong. Last fall, N-son's squash team coach decided to do the very admirable thing (I thought) of bringing in an "expert" from a local Credit Union to give a presentation to the players on the team and their families. We got to have pizza, we "learned" about finances, and we had a Q&A at the end. I was totally jazzed for this event, figuring it would be great to have my kids hear about the importance of financial prudence from someone other than me, for a change. But sheesh! If you're going to teach kids to be responsible with money, maybe you ought to have the teacher be someone who is actually responsible with money, y'know?
The "teacher" in this scenario was a relatively young person who worked at a nearby Credit Union. She'd been provided with a script and a power point presentation, but it was clear that she didn't entirely understand the script she'd been given, especially when it came to debt. For example, here are some of the notes I jotted down, once I realized (to my horror) what she was telling these middle/high school kids and their parents.
- The only way to get a car is with debt, she implied. She and her husband bought a car with a 5-year loan, and her car died after three years. “Oh well, that’s what happens!”
- "You want to have a little bit of debt so you build up your credit card rating."
- "Debt is just a fact of life. Everybody has debt; I do, too! Life happens."
- "The average American has $40,000 of credit card debt." (How she came up with that number, I do not know. Nerd wallet says the average debt is $16K, but that's among American households -- not individuals -- and even then, it's only among households that have debt in the first place. PR newswire says that, contrary to what our presenter said, one in four Americans is debt free.)
- Get a 3-months-of-expenses savings account in place before you attack debt.
(I know that there are other reasonable people who would agree with her; I just think that attacking high-interest credit card debt is probably more urgent than putting money into a low-interest-bearing savings account, especially if building up that much of a cushion is going to take you a year or more).
Her power point presentation told her that she should urge people to think about long-term financial goals. This advice, she translated into the following example:
- "Our long-term goal: My husband and I want to buy a house in five years. "
(I'd have said that a 5-year plan is a medium-term goal; "long-term" goals would be more along the lines of retirement, or children's college funds, or other goals for 10+ years into the future. If you buy a house but don't have a longer-term savings plan that includes maintenance and upkeep, you're in for a rude awakening when you start getting those repair bills).
Speaking of retirement and long-term savings, she had this to say:
Speaking of retirement and long-term savings, she had this to say:
- "They say 'Invest with mutual funds', and I guess that’s not a bad thing to do. It’s okay to invest your money."
Ummm . . . it's "okay" to invest money? It's "not bad"?!?!?? This, from the person who works at a credit union?!?
Sheesh. What I will say about this presentation is that, when the speaker was done, the other parents started speaking up. They emphatically told the kids that "if you rack up debt, you'll find out that there are lots of things you want to do in life that become way more expensive, or even impossible". One of the moms told heartfelt stories about the dangers of credit card debt leading to difficulties renting a decent apartment. I was worried that if I said anything I'd be too strident, but the other parents had no problem jumping in and starting a bit of a rant. It was nice to find that I had compadres in the room, after all.








